We recently published Tina S. Zhu’s wonderful “Roasting S’Mores, First Take.”
Here, we ask her two questions about her story:
1) I love the use of the plural narrator here — sure, the reader is getting the story from the point of view of the crew, but there seems to be a larger implication in that use of “we”: that the audience could be complicit as well. Do you think that they could be?
Yes, the audience is absolutely complicit. Everyone involved from the contestants to the producers to the viewers knows most of reality TV is edited to death and/or staged, but we in the audience keep watching because we love drama. The showrunners and editors of these shows only keep the shots that best serve the storyline they’re going for, which typically is the one that portrays the contestants in the worst possible light. Even in more relaxed shows like The Great British Baking Show, they create tension by editing together footage to make it look like most of the work is done within the last few minutes to maximize tension. The real world doesn’t adhere to story structure, and reality TV is our culture’s collective attempt to force order in the form of story onto disorder. I think that’s why I find it so fascinating to write about in fiction.
2) That said, though, while Jessica is clearly caught up in the manufactured drama, it seems like, perhaps, Allison could be playing into intentionally. Do you think she is more aware than she lets on?
I definitely think Allison is more aware than Jessica of what role the producers cast her for. When I was in college, I tried out for College Jeopardy once. (The full name is the Jeopardy! National College Championship, but I’ve never heard anyone use the full title.) I passed the initial assessment and went to this conference room in a fancy hotel with around twenty other people from a variety of schools. The casting directors interviewed each of us, one by one, while the rest of us listened. What I figured out from these interviews was that they were looking for people who could fit into certain types that made for better stories, and some of the folks at the audition were better at putting on that persona than others. Jessica is an example of someone who naturally has a personality that makes for good TV but is a bit oblivious to what the producers’ motives are. Allison, on the other hand, is more similar to some of the folks at my College Jeopardy audition who were obviously exaggerating certain aspects of their personalities, whether consciously or subconsciously, to fit into a particular box. In case you were wondering what happened to me, I didn’t make the cut, which didn’t surprise me—if I remember right, I was the first to be interviewed in the room and had no idea what to expect. I mostly did the initial assessment out of curiosity to begin with and didn’t do much research on the actual casting process. It was only afterwards that I talked to a friend who happened to know someone who had been on the show before, and he told me ‘everyone’ puts on an act during the auditions. He has since appeared on Jeopardy!, so I believe him.





