Two Questions for Sagar Nair

We recently published Sagar Nair’s brilliant “Not One of Us.”

Here, we ask him two questions about his story:

1) I love stories like this, where the narrator(s) reveal much more about themselves than the person they are presumably talking about (and judging!). Do you think the characters here realize how much they are showing of themselves? Do you think they would care?
Such an interesting question. I think the narrators are unbothered by what they show of themselves, because they believe they are right. They have full conviction in their unjustified disgust. They believe what they say makes them look good, but that is for the reader to decide. Also, I think the narrators hide behind the first-person plural POV to shield themselves from negative perceptions. They speak as a collective to appear valid and authoritative, despite little justification for their views.  

2) Isabel seems like such an amazing person! But do you think she is hoping to wear down her neighbors with kindness? Or does she, as they believe, harbor some sinister intent behind her “giraffe eyes”?
Ultimately, I want readers to decide if they believe the narrators and if Isabel has sinister intentions. Personally, I think Isabel is trying to appease the narrators and prove her goodness through hyper-politeness. Sadly, there is no winning for Isabel—whether she’s rude or polite, she cannot change their minds and they will twist all her actions to support their beliefs. Isabel’s character demonstrates the psychology of a scapegoat. Some scapegoats resist the irrational blame, whereas others turn to respectability and the illusion that one can control what others think. Isabel is trying to prove her right to exist to people who are not listening.

Not One of Us ~ by Sagar Nair

Isabel is not one of us. When we see her, we veil our windows with pleated curtains and woven bamboo shades, snap our shutters and honeycomb blinds. We tug our dogs’ leashes and walk away, fold our hands and pray. Isabel owns the moose meat shop opposite the crematorium. On Fridays, our dead are burned—smoke mists the street and bakes into the moose meat sheets hung in the window display. If we visit her shop, we avoid eye contact and stare at the sausages snaked on the walls. We order shredded, minced, shaved and ground moose meat. Tenderloin, backstrap, ribs, tongue. Isabel fumbles the plastic wrap and jams the vacuum sealer. She is incompetent. We lower our expectations, yet she disappoints us when she forgets to trim the excess fat, when she drops a slab of moose meat on the floor with a splat. What a shame we love moose meat. If we knew her supplier, we would open our own shop and kill her business. Rumors say she hunts the meat herself, that’s why we never see her on Sundays, because she goes into the forest to shoot moose. We try to imagine her with a rifle, with a machete, chopping off antlers, peeling back skin. We cannot. Rumors say she buys beef and paints it with red acrylic to resemble moose meat. She is a fraud. We like to speculate: the crop circle in the corn field means aliens have come to collect her, the lightning storm means God wants to zap her, the month-long rain is her fault. So is the hurricane. Last winter, bird flu decimated the chicken farms and we blamed her. She hexed the priest and stopped his heart. Isabel doesn’t care that she is not one of us. She remains polite, delivers quiches and handmade holiday cards to her neighbors who throw them in the compost for the worms to feast upon. She offers her hand but we do not shake it. She says, “Have a good day.” What agenda lurks behind her pleasantries? Behind her giraffe eyes, does she plot murder? We protect our children. “You cannot play in the park behind the moose meat shop,” we say. “The swing set is rusty,” we say. “You’ll get tetanus,” we say. All lies. When our children grow up, they will realize Isabel is not one of us. They will thank us for our parenting.

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Sagar Nair is from Sydney, Australia. His work is published in SmokeLong Quarterly, X-R-A-Y Literary Magazine, Vol. 1 Brooklyn, 100 Word Story, The Shore Poetry, The Suburban Review, Voiceworks, and elsewhere.

Two Questions for Emily Rinkema

We recently published Emily Rinkema’s devastating “Things That Don’t Matter.”

Here, we ask her two questions about her story:

1) So much of this story is told through nonverbal cues and gestures — there’s such a feeling of the narrator understanding and knowing, and yet being unknown to others herself. How correct do you think her interpretations are here?
I wanted to capture the feeling of being in a social setting and being just a hair’s breadth away from losing it–that feeling when you aren’t sure whether it’s just you or whether your interpretations are actually true–when you know you have to keep that smile plastered on your face or you’ll be crying into your dinner plate in front of everyone. Going through perimenopause has made this feeling all the more resonant for me–I have learned that I can’t always trust my own emotions, that I need to give myself a few beats (or 24 hours!) to decide whether I feel as strongly about something as I do in the moment. Which feels dangerous, not to be able to trust myself, my perception, my intuition.

The narrator here is on that edge, and she definitely doesn’t feel heard or seen by her husband (whom she imagines is truly listening to Manny’s wife), or even by Manny, who has chosen her as a confidante but knows nothing about her in return. And as she maintains control of the party, she is losing control of herself…but not so much that she isn’t able to sense that and disappear upstairs! 

2) And so much of this story is also the keeping up of pretenses, the look of perfection and correctness. In the end, the narrator seems to be unable to cope, but … will her lasagna burn? Will she make it back downstairs to maintain as much of her mask as possible? Or is she going to let it all burn down?
I wanted there to be some ambiguity, since I’m not sure she knows whether she’ll be able to pull it together or not. And the story ends with her looking in the mirror, seeing herself since she thinks no one else sees her. I think the sting of the plucking (an ultimate pretense!) is a way to feel there, to feel present and real, if that makes sense. Ultimately, I want her to let it all burn down, but I don’t think she will. The question is, will she have eyebrows left when she makes it back downstairs!

Things That Don’t Matter ~ by Emily Rinkema

It’s our neighbor Manny’s 50th birthday and we are hosting his party even though he has a wife, who is sitting on our couch in her linen overalls laughing at something my husband Leif just said. She has bangs. I can’t decide whether I want to be her or kill her. I understand there’s likely a middle ground, but right now I can’t find it.

            Leif looks at me and tilts his head in a way that says, “I know you think I’m flirting but I’m just being social,” and I smile at him in a way that says, “I know you are thinking about her breasts,” and then he smiles back in a way that says, “I definitely wasn’t thinking about her breasts until you brought it up,” and I turn back into the kitchen to check on the crab lasagna, which is Manny’s favorite meal.

            I know it’s Manny’s favorite meal because sometimes he texts me late at night when everyone is asleep and tells me things that don’t matter. In addition to the crab lasagna, I know that he has a tattoo on his right thigh, that he thinks a side effect of climate change is that chipmunks are getting larger, that he wants to put a fence in his back yard, that cantaloupe is the best fruit, that he thinks his wife is having an affair, that there are over 40 cities in the world named Paris. In return, Manny knows nothing about me.

            The lasagna still has ten minutes to go, so I wipe my hands on my apron and tell Tina I’m all set, that I don’t need help, and I laugh at something Kelly says even though I didn’t hear it, and when Steven offers to fill my glass by pointing at me with a wine bottle, I nod yes and grab the first glass I see on the counter, which I don’t think is actually mine, and I hold it out to him and he fills it too much, but I don’t pull it away, and then I say “Cheers” to the room and then, “I’ll be right back!” and I say it with an exclamation point so everyone knows I’m happy and that everything is okay and that I’m having fun at the party and that I’m not at all worried or sad or furious that Leif is now touching Manny’s wife’s knee, casually, as if she is saying something profound, as if he wants to show her he’s really listening, and I go upstairs, run upstairs, but in a happy way, a light way, a way that makes people think I’m just popping up to grab something I forgot or to change my shirt or to get a photo I’d promised to show someone.

            “Be right down!” I yell, smiling so they will hear that in my voice.

            In the bathroom, I breathe in through my nose and out through my mouth. I drink my wine. I lean over the sink and look at my face. I take the tweezers out of the drawer and pluck a hair on my chin that is dark, long enough that someone should have pointed it out, someone should have noticed. The sting feels good. I pluck another just below my nose and my eyes water. I can hear voices downstairs but no words. I lean closer to the mirror and stare at my left eyebrow. I pluck a grey hair out of the middle. I know the timer is going to go off any minute now and that I will make it into the kitchen just in time to pull the lasagna out of the oven–pluck!–and everyone will say how great it smells and how hard I must have worked and how lucky Leif is–pluck!–and he will come up behind me and put his hands on my shoulders and kiss the top of my head and I will smile–pluck!–and smile–pluck!–and smile–pluck!

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Emily Rinkema lives and writes in northern Vermont, USA. Her writing has recently appeared in Ghost Parachute, Okay Donkey, JAKE, and Frazzled Lit, and she won the 2024 Cambridge and Lascaux Prizes for flash fiction. You can read her work at https://emilyrinkema.wixsite.com/my-site or follow her on X, BS, or IG (@emilyrinkema).

Two Questions for Sarp Sozdinler

We recently published Sarp Sozdinler’s impeccable “Golden Hour.”

Here, we ask him two questions about his story:

1) I love the idea of perfection in this piece, taking the form of omelettes. Especially because my omelettes never turn out! But really, the woman becomes lost in the creation of perfect omelettes until she is utterly lost.Does anyone remember the woman she was? Or only her perfect omelettes?
I think the most important question is for her: Will she remember who she is? Who she becomes along the way? Her domestic labor, it seems, is the only time she feels alive, present, and useful within the confines of her reality. The omelette becomes her signature of sorts, the only part of her that’s legible to the people benefiting from it. That’s the trap of perfection, too: it’s flattering, rewarding, even endearing in a way, but it’s also a form of manipulation. The better she gets at it, the less anyone needs to think about who she is, because the answer is in the omelette. In that sense, she is neither recognized nor remembered for who she is (a woman with a soul and complexity), but for what she represents (a preordained social role she inherited from other women in her position). And yet the ending gives her an almost mythological status, one that won’t offer her any consolation or fame but a kind of problematic permanence. Her personhood may be forgotten, but her legacy will remain: someone will always crack eggs at the same counter, in the same light, chasing that brief golden moment of perfection and simplicity. I find something unsettlingly poetic, even evolutionary, in all that.

2) What made you choose omelettes for this piece, and not, say, pancakes or waffles? Perhaps a nice frittata? What drew you to omelettes to tell this woman’s story?
I’d guess it’s because an omelette is humbler, cheaper, and more accessible worldwide. In my Turkish homes, pancakes and waffles were pretty much nonexistent; omelettes were the everyday currency of our care-giving and gathering. They let the labor of love stay intimate and small and effortless and repetitive without turning the whole thing into a spectacle. You can make them for one person or twenty. You can make them every day. They are fast and hot and perishable. They vanish as soon as they’re eaten. (There must be a reason why there’s no leftover omelette culture anywhere.) That kind of ephemerality works twofold in this story: the work disappears on schedule, so is the worker. There’s an almost ritualistic zen to it all, this small and semi-meaningless morning liturgy you repeat over and over and over, until the day you die or fall out of use like a well-loved (yet under-appreciated) household appliance. I apologize for the grim turn of phrase, but that’s the story’s hinge: devotion and obligation can sometimes look like the same thing and be mistaken for one another in the wrong light. Like in a complicated relationship, omelettes can punish you for taking them for granted. It all but takes a second of crisis of confidence for everything to go awry. That kind of frustration for some reason feels right in a story about endless search for perfection: perfection as a perpetually moving target, something you can almost hold, but never for too long.

Golden Hour ~ by Sarp Sozdinler

One morning, she cooked an omelette for herself. It was perfect. Golden at the edges, soft around the middle. The smell hung in the air: butter, heat, a little salt. She cooked another one, this time for her children. It slid from the pan like silk. She wiped the counter. No crumbs, no trace. She cooked ten omelettes and her hands moved without thought: crack, whisk, pour, tilt. She cooked for the whole neighborhood, fifty in a day, and her husband slapped her in the back. She worked through the sweat. She could tell the right moment to fold by the smell alone. She cooked nearly five hundred omelettes and that was a whole week gone. She cooked five thousand omelettes and that was a year. The cartons of eggs changed brands, but her rhythm stayed the same. The skillet memorized the outline of her palm. The pan would have waxed lyrical about the warmth of her touch. She cooked fifty thousand omelettes and that was a lifetime. Her wrists buzzed even at night. Her shoulders hummed with ghosts of flips long past. Her clothes were lined with crumbs and yolk. She cooked four hundred thousand omelettes and then she was gone. Her husband complained about the quality going down. Decades turned. The house changed hands. Whole families died and eggs hatched with new life. Nobody remembered the woman who’d cooked all those omelettes, but every morning, someone still cracked eggs at the same counter. The butter hissed. The smell rose. And somewhere in that brief golden moment, the world felt simple all over again.

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Sarp Sozdinler has been published in Electric Literature, Kenyon Review, Masters Review, Pithead Chapel, Flash Frog, and Fractured Lit, among other journals. His stories have been selected and nominated for anthologies, including the Pushcart Prize, Best Small Fictions, and Wigleaf Top 50. He’s currently at work on his first novel in Philadelphia and Amsterdam: www.sarpsozdinler.com | @sarpsozdinler

Two Questions for Stephanie Frazee

We recently published Stephanie Frazee’s miraculous “A Glorious and Unknown Place.”

Here, we ask her two questions about her story:

1) I love how you take the Hans Christian Andersen idea of the soulless mermaid (I mean, really, his stories were ALL Christian allegories, weren’t they!) and turn her into something that both takes and gives. Do you think there is a part of your mermaid that longs for a soul like the Andersen version?
Absolutely! The mermaid’s longing for a soul has gotten lost in the modern versions of the story, whereas it’s the main driver of her actions, and gives poignancy to the resolution of her relationship with the prince, in the Andersen version. In this story, she believes the boys have what is inaccessible and unknowable to her and that she has found a way of getting closer to it. I did not set out to write a story about her longing for a soul, but it went there pretty quickly. I mean, what higher stakes can there be for a character? 

2) The boys that come to her — they lose their lives but they gain eternity. Or so the mermaid believes. Is this really an act of so-called generosity? Or is there jealousy at play here?
There is totally jealousy at play, among other things. In the Andersen version, the mermaid has a statue of a boy in her garden. That was the start of this story: how might she have gotten the statue (Andersen tells us it was a shipwreck, but what else might have happened?), and why is it so special to her? What does it mean to love something that can’t love you back, and alternatively, can’t reject you or leave or tell you how it feels at all? That is possession, not love. However, I think the mermaid believes her actions come from a place of love, and that takes the story to an even darker place. 

A Glorious and Unknown Place ~ by Stephanie Frazee

The mermaid’s story is not her beauty. Her story is not creamy skin and lustrous hair, shell-smooth breasts unencumbered by gravity, small waist giving way to scaled hips. That is a story of fantasy, of fetish. She is beautiful, in the way of an angler fish or riftia, terrifying but perfectly and efficiently built for what she needs.

Her story is not how she traded her voice—so angelic, sweet, and resonant the whales give pause, sailors would gladly give their lives, and gods become jealous—for legs, her gills for lungs. Her story is not the excruciating pain of rendered tail, bloodied feet, broken heart. Lies, she says of these stories, told only to diminish her power. She has been many things, but she has never been frivolous.

Her story is her love, not the love of a girl for a prince, wide-eyed and stupid, needing only to be looked at, to be seen. Her love is as instinctual as hunger, forceful as the sea, powerful as a god. Her story is her garden, adorned with statuary on the sea floor. Red algae-covered and salt-aged stone. Sea grasses, kelp, anemones, polyps, tended with the care of a mother—watchful, pruning, possessive. And the statues: boys, precious looks of wonder in their immovable eyes. A variety of ages and sizes, but all in their youth. The youngest a new walker, the oldest not yet adolescent. Found on the beach by the mermaid, where she waits under the jetty. Where she watches for the most beautiful of them, the most inquisitive, the boldest. The ones who will wander off to explore a curiosity. The ones who do not doubt the existence of a being of another world. She waits under the jetty, calls them with a quiet song, a song only for those who still know how to listen.

The mermaid’s story is not what she gave up, a bad deal she made, a body hurled into the foam. She has been many things, but she has never been foolish. Her story is the way she draws the boys to her, the way they take her hand, so eager, so willing. Her story is the way she pulls them toward the water and down, gently, because they don’t think to let go of her hand. Her story is how they don’t struggle, not even when it’s too late, when they’re frozen to stone in their state of pure wonder.

Her story is that, though she will live a long life, when she dies, she will dissolve into the waves, as if she never existed. She has no soul to live beyond her body, and this is the source of the enduring pain of her story.

Her story is how she arranges the stone boys, each one in his place, here and here and here, expanding her garden to make room for them, all turned toward the center where she takes in their unwavering gazes, their outstretched hands reaching for her, forever. Their palms open, offering their lives to her, not to be stolen, but preserved. Her story is one of benevolence, taking them at the peak of boyhood. She takes only the innocent, the unsullied, the ones who have not yet sullied another. Her story is how she keeps them safe. Or, rather, how she does not keep them, but frees them, these boys with still-clean souls that will go on forever in a glorious, unknown place. She gives them the forever closed to her. Her story is how she loves them not despite, but because.  

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Stephanie Frazee’s work is forthcoming from or has appeared in Bending Genres, Gooseberry Pie Literary Magazine, Centaur, Sundress Publications’ Delicate Machinery: Poems for Survival & Healing, Midwest Weird, Variant Literature, Pithead Chapel, and elsewhere. She is online at www.stephaniefrazee.com and @stephieosaurus.bsky.social. 

Two Questions for Sudha Subramanian

We recently published Sudha Subramanian’s brilliant “It’s Not So Bad That Appa Is Dead.”

Here, we ask her two questions about her story:

1) I love the lie of the title. I love that it is a lie that the narrator is trying to convince themself of. I love how the reader sees through the lie almost instantly. Does the narrator see through the lie as well?
This is such a great question. The narrator tries to believe the lie and doesn’t want to see through it until they see through the inevitable truth. In a way, the unwillingness, the conviction, helps in coping with grief, yet it falls apart like in this piece towards the end.

2) The parent-child relationship here is so relatable and so beautiful. Thank you for sharing it with us! The distance between them, and yet the closeness — is that something the narrator holds onto?
I think a parent-child relationship is always this – distance and closeness. Although we prefer to hold on to the closeness, the distance (like in this piece) can make the complexity of relationships more endearing.

It’s Not So Bad That Appa Is Dead ~ by Sudha Subramanian

otherwise, he will call me, or I will call him,

and we will talk about his allergies, his prostate, his knees and elbows. He will ask about my day and I’ll tell him what I cooked. “Do you really know how to make that mango curry?” he will ask and I’ll roll my eyes. “Appa, I’ve been cooking for twenty years!” and he will sigh, saying, “Wow, you really have grown up so much!”

         and our conversation won’t end there. He will recall that relative I don’t like. “Visit them,” he will pester and I’ll come up with an excuse. “How about the weekend?” he will persist, and I’ll nod, saying, “I’ll try,”

         and at that moment, sensing the uneasiness hanging between us across the continents, he will recall a snippet from his boyhood — a story I can narrate verbatim. My irritation will drag at its seams. “I know this, Appa!” I’ll say with a straight face. “Have I told you about the time when I took that long walk with my grandfather to the temple?” His eyes will sparkle like little pearls. “Yes. That too!”

        and he will try again, “Even that time when I almost burned my tongue?” His face will touch the screen of the iPad and my heart will melt. “OK. Maybe not that,” I will lie,

         and he will sit up straight and tell me about how he went to a wedding and had piping hot payasam and scalded his tongue, and flutter his fingers to mimic his memory,

and he will and I will, and he will and I will, and all that remains now is I wish I could.

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Sudha Subramanian lives in Dubai. Her work has appeared in Cutleaf, Centaur Lit, Bending Genres, among others. She is a tree hugger and an amateur birder. Connect with her on X @sudhasubraman or on IG @sudha_subraman or on Bluesky @sudhasubraman.bsky.social