We recently published Lauren Kardos’s biting “What we talk about when we want to talk about Fight Club.”
Here, we ask her two questions about her story:
1) I love the voice(s) here. I love their rage, their pain, their sensitivity. And yes! They ask: “What did nineties-era white men have to be so mad about?” What did they have, indeed? What do they have to be so mad about now?
I admit I am a Palahniuk fangirl. Fight Club was the first Palahniuk novel I read. It rocked my 16-year-old brain in the early aughts. It’s a rare case where the movie does great justice to the book, in my opinion, and I’ve returned to both often over the years. I wanted to imagine the girls encountering this story the same age I did, but with the layer of contemporary events in the United States: the Me Too movement, the overturn of Roe v. Wade, the Epstein Files. etc. The girls’ question is both reductionist and not, just like Fight Club. The 90s era men, in the novel, hated their jobs, hated feeling stuck in the cycle of overconsumption and overdrawn bank accounts, hated the systems which killed their health, hopes, and perceived freedom. Hated their mothers (Chapter 6) for teaching them non-violence, so in grasping for adulthood control, they latch onto Fight Club and Project Mayhem as a way to enact change. I hated how Marla was the only female character in Fight Club, a character we’re set up to dislike. Many of the men’s anger was valid! The systems did suck in the 90s. But to ignore or disdain a giant chunk of the population, girls and women, experiencing the brunt of violence from these systems already? Tyler Durden’s ideology is ignorant of reality (to say the least of a dissociative personality). The systems are shit on a massive, global scale now. Go check the headlines to see what white men in power say they are so angry about today, the ideology that trickles down into voters of a certain persuasion. They’re enacting violence to expand control in ways different than in Fight Club, not just against women, but also communities of color, immigrants and asylum-seekers, trans and queer communities, and more. It’s way scarier. We can’t let these men horde all the anger, something the girls in my story react to, try to remedy.
2) The reasons for what the girls do here — oh, damn, the reasons. Every broken little bit of their worlds sneak their ways into this. But unlike the men of Fight Club with their white-men madness, these girls are practicing for their future. For a world that will try to knock them down, that won’t “pull her punches.” Maybe this isn’t the best way to go about it, but … do you think this will make them stronger? Safer?
This question reminds me of podcast host banter at the start of an early My Favorite Murder episode. Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark were attempting to explain why they learn about and recount grisly true crime stories, many of which feature the violent death of women. Both said something along the lines of: if I can learn about and imagine every worst case scenario that could happen, then when something similar happens to me, I have a higher chance of survival. It was the when not if of their reasoning that shook me, stayed with me for its truth. My heart breaks for American young women coming of age now, for girls born with fewer rights than Gen X and Millennials and our Boomer mothers had. I don’t know if the girls’ cemetery Fight Club will make them stronger or safer. What they have to respond to is so outside of their immediate control. But I hope it makes them angry, makes them persistent, makes them ready for the fight.